16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767455 0 Cy 260714-0 I Mae hon yn fersiwn ddrafft o’r Cofnod sy’n cynnwys yr iaith a lefarwyd a’r cyfieithiad ar y pryd.  Mae [R] yn dynodi bod yr Aelod wedi datgan buddiant wrth gyflwyno’r busnes. This is a draft version of the Record that includes the floor language and the simultaneous interpretation.  [R] indicates that the Member has declared an interest when tabling the business. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767456 1 Cy 260714-0 I Cyfarfu'r Senedd yn y Siambr a thrwy gynhadledd fideo am 13:30 gyda'r Llywydd (Huw Irranca-Davies) yn y Gadair.  The Senedd met in the Chamber and by video-conference at 13:30 with the Llywydd (Huw Irranca-Davies) in the Chair. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767458 2 Cy 2026-07-14T13:30:01 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1&l=en 260714-1 Datganiad gan y Llywydd Statement by the Llywydd C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Prynhawn da, bawb.  Good afternoon, everybody. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767461 3 En 2026-07-14T13:30:02 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2&l=cy 260714-1 Datganiad gan y Llywydd Statement by the Llywydd C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Good afternoon, everybody. We will make a start. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767464 4 Cy 2026-07-14T13:30:06 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=6&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=6&l=en 260714-1 Datganiad gan y Llywydd Statement by the Llywydd C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Gadewch inni ddechrau. Yn gyntaf, hoffwn roi gwybod i'r Aelodau, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 26.87, fy mod wedi sefydlu a chyhoeddi amserlen ar gyfer balotau Biliau Aelod ar gyfer y seithfed Senedd. Cynhelir dau falot, y cyntaf ddydd Mercher 14 Hydref a'r ail ddydd Mercher 7 Gorffennaf 2027. Mae'r broses ar gyfer balotau Biliau Aelod yn newydd ar gyfer y seithfed Senedd. Am y tro cyntaf, bydd y rhain yn falotau enw yn unig. Bydd rhagor o fanylion am y balotau, ynghyd â gwybodaeth am yr hyfforddiant a fydd ar gael ar y broses o ran Biliau Aelod, yn cael eu cyhoeddi i'r holl Aelodau yr wythnos hon. Diolch. Let's make a start. I would first of all like to inform Members that, in accordance with Standing Order 26.87, I have established and published the timetable for the Member Bill ballots for the seventh Senedd. Two ballots will be held, the first on Wednesday 14 October and the second on Wednesday 7 July 2027. The process for Member Bill ballots is new for the seventh Senedd. For the first time, these will be name-only ballots. Further detail about the ballots, together with information about the training that will be available on the Member Bill process, will be issued to all Members this week. Thank you. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767470 5 Cy 2026-07-14T13:31:13 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=73&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=73&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Nawr, symudwn i eitem 1, cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog. Cwestiwn 1, Cai Parry-Jones. Now, we will move on to item 1, questions to the First Minister. The first question is from Cai Parry-Jones. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767471 6 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister B Arbedion Cost Cost Savings 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767472 7 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister O 12174 12174 Cai Parry-Jones AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12174 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12174 Parry-Jones, Cai 1. A yw Llywodraeth Cymru wedi gwneud unrhyw arbedion cost diriaethol mewn unrhyw adran yn ystod y Senedd hon hyd yn hyn? OQ64428 1. Has the Welsh Government made any tangible cost savings in any department during this Senedd so far? OQ64428 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767473 8 En 2026-07-14T13:31:29 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=89&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=89&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Llywydd, our job is to make every £1 work as hard as possible for the people of Wales. That means focusing resources on the priorities that matter most to people and delivering the commitments we were elected to deliver. We're reviewing spending across Government to ensure resources are directed where they can make the biggest difference, whether that's cutting waiting lists, tackling child poverty, or strengthening our economy. Alongside this, we will continue to press Westminster, of course, for the fair funding that Wales deserves. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767479 9 En 2026-07-14T13:31:58 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=118&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=118&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12174 12174 Cai Parry-Jones AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12174 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12174 Parry-Jones, Cai I'll take that as a 'No'. A key component of the Welsh Government's administrative spend is the estate it owns and manages. According to the most recent and cutely named 'State of the Estate' report, published in April, we see that the Welsh Government has around 70,000 sq m of estate at a cost of nearly £20 million a year. Seventy thousand square metres of estate is exactly the same as the 2020 target produced pre-COVID and before the boom in home working. We also learnt from the latest report, quote: 'Most Staff continued to work remotely'. First Minister, smarter management of the estate could save over £10 million a year. My question is: why is the Welsh Government not making these obvious efficiencies? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767491 10 En 2026-07-14T13:32:45 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=165&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=165&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun I know the Member comes from the position of begrudgingly having even a square foot of estate in Wales looking after the interests of the people of Wales. But, I'll tell you what, this Government is a Government that believes in using the resources that we have wisely. We can look at it in terms of square footage or we can look at it in terms of people. What I want to do is make the most of the people that we have, whether that's working in the civil service, whether it's working across public sector, in health and education and in everything this Government does—including encouraging people to get the right balance between remote working and working in the office. We will do our utmost to make, as I say, the best use of every single £1. In that context, maybe he should take my original answer as a 'Yes'. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767493 11 En 2026-07-14T13:33:34 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=214&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=214&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12178 12178 Anna Nicholl AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12178 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12178 Nicholl, Anna Yesterday, the Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee took evidence from Adrian Crompton, the outgoing Auditor General for Wales. In his evidence, he was clear that value for money is not just about spending less, it's about making the money we do have work better. If we are to address the real challenges facing our communities today, what we need to focus on is better Government, driven by a new leadership. I'm delighted that this is already a core commitment of this Government and something it's getting started on quickly in its first 100 days. Will the First Minister assure us that his Government will maintain a relentless focus on improving outcomes for people and making the best use of the resources that Government does have? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767499 12 En 2026-07-14T13:34:18 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=258&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=258&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun We've made it clear that it's all about outcomes, it's all about looking at how the decisions that we take as a Government impact positively on the lives of the people of Wales. I absolutely agree that good Government isn't about chasing short-term savings, if you like. Though we make every £1 work hard, it is about making every £1 deliver better outcomes for the people of Wales. It's why we're reforming how public services are delivered. That stronger focus on prevention is one that comes to mind immediately: how we can spend money now on stopping some of those problems in health occurring later down the line. It's why the target has been put in place by the enterprise Minister on halving the productivity gap and making the investment now in ensuring that we strengthen  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767459 13 En 2026-07-14T13:35:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=300&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=300&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun in ensuring that we strengthen the economy in that way. It is all about good Government, with long-term positive outcomes for the people of Wales. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767463 14 En 2026-07-14T13:35:11 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=311&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=311&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12156 12156 Huw Thomas AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12156 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12156 Thomas, Huw Diolch, Brif Weinidog. One of the key challenges of Government is to manage in-year spend and in-year overspends. You will know, First Minister, that local government is bound by law that they have to balance their books within year. That doesn't go for other governmental departments. Do you accept the principle that all Government departments should manage their budgets to the agreed budgets, or, if not, can you outline what in-year overspends are you prepared to accept this year? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767467 15 En 2026-07-14T13:35:43 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=343&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=343&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun The Member will imagine, I'm sure—and he'd imagine correctly—that this is a Government coming into power that is determined to look afresh at all the budgets that we have, to make sure they are aligned with our priorities, that money is being spent well, with outcomes at the heart of everything that we do. It's not the case that our Government departments can have overspends as such. There are elements of the public service, we know, where there are significant in-year pressures—health being one of those—and this Government has indeed inherited hundreds of millions of pounds of in-year pressures in the health service as a result of the mismanagement of health by previous Labour health Ministers. That's something that doesn't stop us from getting to grips with the challenge now in improving public services, but that is the reality, and everything we do is about making sure that our public funding is dealt with in a prudent way, to deliver the best outcomes for the people of Wales. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767476 16 En 2026-07-14T13:36:51 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=411&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=411&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 143 143 Andrew R.T. Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=143 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=143 Davies, Andrew R.T. First Minister, one of the inquiries that the Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee undertook at the end of the last Senedd term was to look at the Global Centre of Rail Excellence. It was made clear to us that an incoming Government would have to make a critical decision over whether it was going to back this particular venture, and the tag price on that was some £400 million. No small change in the back of the sofa for that, I would suggest. Has the Government had a chance to formulate a view on the future funding requirements for the Global Centre of Rail Excellence, and, if you have, when will you be bringing a statement forward so that we know what the commitment will be, going forward? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767481 17 En 2026-07-14T13:37:31 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=451&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=451&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun The Member is right to point to this as being something that can offer opportunities in terms of the Welsh economy, but he's also right to point out that there are significant expenditure commitments that would need to be made in order to get to that point. The Government has not yet come to a decision around that. That is a consideration that will be ongoing, and I'm unable to give a date on that. As the Member will be aware, there are many, many funding considerations that the Government is grappling with in these early weeks. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767486 18 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister B Amseroedd Aros Waiting Times 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767487 19 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister O 5113 5113 Nigel Williams AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5113 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5113 Williams, Nigel 2. Pa gamau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i leihau amseroedd aros ar gyfer apwyntiadau cleifion allanol a llawdriniaethau i gleifion yn sir y Fflint a Wrecsam? OQ64369 2. What action is the Welsh Government taking to reduce waiting times for out-patient appointments and surgery for patients in Flintshire and Wrexham? OQ64369 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767488 20 En 2026-07-14T13:38:18 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=498&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=498&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun We announced an additional £145 million to support a clinically led approach to focus on delivering a sustainable solution to reducing waiting times and driving pathway transformation. We've set up an expert panel to look at the development of surgical hubs and are commissioning an independent review of performance and the impact waiting has on patients. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767492 21 En 2026-07-14T13:38:40 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=520&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=520&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5113 5113 Nigel Williams AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5113 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5113 Williams, Nigel Well, that doesn't help me, I'm afraid, First Minister. I've got a letter for an appointment here, actually, for myself personally, which was written a year ago, which tells me that I've been placed on an out-patient waiting list in Betsi Cadwaladr trust, and that I'd be contacted as soon as possible, and I've heard nothing since. I've also been told by someone else that they've been waiting three years—three years—for gallbladder surgery, and they've heard nothing since whatsoever. I could be dead by now. What are you actually doing, and what can you do for my constituent, so they can realistically expect to receive the appointment and treatment they've been waiting so long for? Diolch. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767497 22 En 2026-07-14T13:39:21 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=561&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=561&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun I'm grateful for the question. I would respectfully ask the Member to reflect on the code of conduct on pursuing our own particular cases within the Welsh Parliament. But of course it is right that we all represent people who have been waiting a very long time on waiting lists. It is the length of waiting lists in terms of numbers, it is the length of time that people are waiting on them, that has led this Government to conclude, even before we came into Government, that this was a priority. It's why we prioritised in the last budget, for 2026-27, the need to invest in the NHS now, it's why decisions have been made through the supplementary budget, 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767460 23 En 2026-07-14T13:40:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=600&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=600&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun through the supplementary budget, which we hope can be passed today, in order to spend on bringing down waiting times and making the system sustainable, because it is unacceptable. Wherever people are—and that, of course, includes people here in this Siambr who are on waiting lists—it's not acceptable that we believe this to be normal, and that is why we are placing the utmost seriousness on the work of working with health boards, making the investment, having those performance reviews so that we can build a sustainable NHS and care system for the future.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767465 24 En 2026-07-14T13:40:34 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=634&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=634&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Irranca-Davies, Huw Brif Weinidog, diolch. And as you've raised Standing Orders, I'm sure the Member who spoke was speaking on behalf of his constituents as well, whilst drawing on a personal experience. But, just to clarify, indeed, speaking on behalf of constituents is our imperative here. Carrie Harper.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767466 25 En 2026-07-14T13:40:55 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=655&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=655&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 278 278 Carrie Harper AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=278 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=278 Harper, Carrie The issue of parking at the Maelor hospital in Wrexham is raised with us time and time again, and some residents have told us that they've arrived sometimes up to three hours before an appointment just to find a parking space. And that will be contributing to the 27,000 missed appointments at the Maelor last year. We've raised that repeatedly with the health board, alongside other local Members as well, the council and residents, too, yet there are still no concrete plans to tackle the problem. My own mother is currently undergoing cancer treatment, so I've seen first-hand the extra stress that that causes for people who are already worried about their health. I welcome the Government's commitment in the supplementary budget to boost funding for the NHS, and I also hope that this budget passes to allow that support to happen. First Minister, do you agree that accessing healthcare should begin at the hospital entrance and not with a queue for a parking space? And what discussions is the Welsh Government having with Betsi Cadwaladr to ensure that this long-running problem is finally treated as a priority? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767475 26 En 2026-07-14T13:41:56 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=716&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=716&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Well, I certainly agree that access to healthcare should not begin with anxiety about finding a parking space, and it is something that far too many people face. Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board is responsible for the operation and management of parking across its estate. Welsh Government guidance sets out the principles and best practice that health boards should apply when managing car parking at hospital sites. The health board recognises the parking pressures at Wrexham Maelor Hospital in particular, and I understand that it's considering practical operational and management options to improve access for patients, visitors and staff, keeping emergency routes clear as well, which is very, very important. It's one of those elements on which my health Minister is eager to see improvement, wherever that might be in Wales.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767482 27 En 2026-07-14T13:42:48 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=768&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=768&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 8734 8734 Sam Rowlands AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8734 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=8734 Rowlands, Sam First Minister, Nigel Williams, the Member, was absolutely right to raise concerns about constituents waiting far too long for planned procedures, surgeries on waiting lists in Fflint Wrecsam. One particular area that I believe requires some extra focus, ironically, is that of cataract operations. People are having to wait two years or more for cataract operations. You'll appreciate, First Minister, during that time, it can be debilitating for people, especially if they need to drive, in rural areas of my constituency of Fflint Wrecsam, when they're waiting for years for what is actually quite a simple procedure in the grand scheme of things. People who live just over the border in Cheshire are waiting six weeks for exactly the same operation to take place. It strikes me that there's an issue there with the commissioning of services, which could make a big difference to accelerating people's waits when it comes to cataract operations. So, would you look at that, First Minister, to see where, specifically, cataract operations can be accelerated to ensure that those thousands of people who are waiting currently no longer have to wait without being able to see properly? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767494 28 En 2026-07-14T13:43:51 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=831&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=831&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun As the Minister points out, that is something that the Government is doing. We know that, when it comes to the eyes, it is particularly important to pursue treatment as quickly as possible. It was one of those elements during COVID, I remember, when people were facing delays in accessing care because of COVID restrictions, and that was putting eyesight at risk. It's something that the Government is very, very aware of. It's one of those areas that's very much in mind when we look forward to continuing the performance review and putting in that sustainability, which will help across the NHS in time.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767501 29 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister B Cwestiynau Heb Rybudd gan Arweinwyr y Pleidiau Questions Without Notice from the Party Leaders 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767500 30 Cy 2026-07-14T13:44:29 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=869&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=869&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Galwaf yn awr ar arweinwyr y pleidiau i holi'r Prif Weinidog. Yn gyntaf, arweinydd Reform UK, Dan Thomas.  I now call on the party leaders to question the First Minister. First, the leader of Reform UK, Dan Thomas.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767504 31 En 2026-07-14T13:44:37 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=877&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=877&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12147 12147 Dan Thomas AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 Leader of the Opposition Arweinydd yr Wrthblaid Thomas, Dan Continuing with the theme of the NHS, in this last week before recess I would like to get to the bottom of when two-year waits on the NHS will be eradicated, because thousands of people across Wales are still waiting, in pain and discomfort, for far too long. Now, during the election campaign, the First Minister said that two-year waits would be eradicated within a matter of months, and then his new health Minister said 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767462 32 En 2026-07-14T13:45:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=900&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=900&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12147 12147 Dan Thomas AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 Thomas, Dan and then his new health Minister said that they would be eradicated by the end of the four-year term. I then asked the First Minister who was right, and in a very long-winded answer, he said that he was. But then, just a couple of weeks ago, his finance Minister, on BBC Walescast, said that two-year waits would be gone in 12 months—so, in other words, a year. Now, a year is a lot longer than a matter of months. So, can the First Minister finally give us some more detail: by which month will two-year waits be finally eradicated in Wales, as they are in England? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767474 33 En 2026-07-14T13:45:35 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=935&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=935&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun We could have a philosophical debate here about how many months is months. All I can say is that all the actions that have been taken by this Government within the first 100 days—you know, commissioning that work on establishing the surgery hubs, on making sure that we put that investment through this supplementary budget that we want to get passed today, so that we can, both in capital spend and in resource spend, make that investment to drive down those two-year waits. The actions that Government is taking are aligned with bringing down those two-year waits as quickly as we can. We want to do it in months. I not so much stick to that; that is precisely what we set out to do before coming in to Government, and what we are actively delivering now in Government. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767477 34 En 2026-07-14T13:46:20 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=980&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=980&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12147 12147 Dan Thomas AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 Thomas, Dan The First Minister gave a promise during the election that two-year waits would be eradicated within a matter of months. That clearly is not happening. These promises are coming back to haunt you. It was obviously a promise that was made in the heat of an election debate, just as were your comments about a road solution for the M4. Your Ministers keep punishing you for your off-the-cuff remarks by rowing back on the promises that you're making in the heat of debates. Now, it is quite clear that the First Minister doesn't do the detail. There's no detail on two-year waits. There's no detail on tackling M4 congestion. There's no detail yet on childcare plans. You had 30 years to wait for this moment, and there's not even any detail on what Plaid's definition of a woman is, right? So, let's try an easy question, because we know this figure is somewhere in Plaid Cymru HQ: what are the initial costings of Plaid Cymru's childcare offer? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767480 35 En 2026-07-14T13:47:23 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1043&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1043&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun I mean, the costings around the childcare offer have been made public, and they are very much a part of the supplementary budget that is due to be voted on today. The childcare offer is made up of a specific fund of £55 million that is going to be partly in capital, partly in resource, to make sure that we're able to deliver, as the first phase of the roll-out of costed childcare, the completion of the 12.5 hours for two-year-olds. Now, that is what is being done. I literally cannot give you more detail than that. It's the money, it's the timescale, and it's going to be done within this financial year. Now, I know the Member couldn't decide which question to ask today, so he tried to bring eight into one. But in terms of accusing me of giving an off-the-cuff reply on the M4, it was an off-the-cuff reply based on 15 years of Plaid Cymru policy that we want to see a solution to the problems on the M4 in the Newport area—work that has already begun under my Deputy Minister for Transport, and that we will be reporting on in the autumn of this year. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767490 36 En 2026-07-14T13:48:29 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1109&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1109&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12147 12147 Dan Thomas AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12147 Thomas, Dan Fifteen years, and all your transport Minister could come up with is closing junctions. Now, that is one way to stop congestion is to stop cars getting onto the M4. I'll give you that, but the people of Newport will not be very happy with that. I asked for initial costings. Costings for phase 1 is not the initial costings. You said during the election campaign your promises were fully costed. Then you're downgrading them to initial costings. Then you're downgrading it to costings for phase 1. So, you clearly haven't got a plan. And if we do get those costings within the first 100 days, the 100 days ends during recess. So, we can't scrutinise when you actually issue those, but we will be here in September, waiting to scrutinise those figures. But, First Minister, if your supplementary budget is voted down today, are you prepared to come back during the summer recess with a revised budget, or is this a part-time Plaid Government? Or are you content for the plans within your supplementary budget to languish for months upon months because you're too stubborn to do a deal? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767498 37 En 2026-07-14T13:49:34 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1174&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1174&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun The idea that, from opposition, we were unable to resolve the problems of the M4—we were in opposition over those years. He was in the Conservative Party, so I get the confusion there about where his politics land. Listen, I understand that there is frustration in wanting a holiday after eight weeks of being the leader of Reform in here. We will be working through the last 43 days of the 100-day plan, every single day of that 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767478 38 En 2026-07-14T13:50:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1200&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1200&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun every single day of that reporting on it as we promised the people of Wales we would, and then cracking on with phase 2, which is that programme for government to transform the lives of the people of Wales. But today, we need to get a supplementary budget through to get working on the NHS, on childcare, on additional learning needs, and all those issues that matter to the people of Wales.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767483 39 Cy 2026-07-14T13:50:20 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1220&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1220&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Arweinydd Llafur Cymru, Ken Skates.  The leader of Welsh Labour, Ken Skates.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767489 40 En 2026-07-14T13:50:22 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1222&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1222&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 267 267 Ken Skates AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=267 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=267 Skates, Ken Diolch. First Minister, over the past few days, a crisis developed, the like of which I fear we will see again and again. Homes were evacuated, schools were closed, hundreds of acres of land was scorched, and businesses hit during the north Wales wildfires and extreme heat. Now, thanks to our emergency services the loss of human life was averted. First Minister, who is responsible in your Government for responding to such events?  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767496 41 En 2026-07-14T13:50:50 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1250&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1250&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun This is a cross-government response, of course. We have Ministers directly involved in working with the particular emergency services, of course. But this is a cross-government approach in that these fires may have started yesterday, but they are caused by man-made climate change that all of us across Government are committed to addressing. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767502 42 En 2026-07-14T13:51:13 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1273&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1273&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 267 267 Ken Skates AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=267 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=267 Skates, Ken Thank you, First Minister. Of course, the risk with it being cross-government is that no single Minister actually holds on to the responsibility. Now, that was the distinct advantage of having a Minister for north Wales. This week, the Welsh Government has been pretty much silent in north Wales and about north Wales whilst these fires have taken place. More people may be left homeless in weeks and months to come with further extreme heat predicted, and that means that businesses will also be hit, likely events will be cancelled. Can you assure people across Wales that your Government will support businesses and homeowners who are impacted by wildfires and extreme heat? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767509 43 En 2026-07-14T13:51:52 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1312&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1312&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Of course, my Government will do everything we can and already have done to support those who are affected by these fires. My thanks initially go to the people who responded to them. My thoughts are with the people who are affected by them. On the question of a Minister for north Wales, I have a Minister for orth Wales. It's Siân Gwenllian, and it's Davydd Trystan, and it's Anna Brychan, it's Mabon ap Gwynfor, it's Sioned Williams. All my Ministers are Ministers for all of Wales. Where was Labour's Minister for the south of Wales, if that matters? Because all my Ministers are Ministers for the south of Wales too, and the west of Wales, and mid Wales, because we are a joined-up Government that has a plan for our nation, all of our nation. That is why all of us have come together around this supplementary budget today—north, south, east, west and mid, important to remember—with a determination to change the lives of the people of Wales for the better. We have a supplementary budget that is focused on making the NHS sustainable. I will be voting for that sustainability for the NHS. The leader of Labour in Wales is threatening to vote against that. I will be voting against expanding free school meals under this supplementary budget. The Labour leader here is threatening to vote against that. I will be voting for the expansion of paid-for childcare in Wales. The Labour leader threatens to vote against that. And yes, I will be voting for a package worth £120 million for ALN that he and I negotiated positively on, and he is threatening to vote to not allow that spending to go ahead. This is a Government for all of Wales with a vision for all of our nation. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767516 44 Cy 2026-07-14T13:53:40 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1420&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1420&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Arweinydd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, Darren Millar. The Leader of the Welsh Conservatives, Darren Millar.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767517 45 En 2026-07-14T13:53:43 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1423&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1423&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 171 171 Darren Millar AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=171 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=171 Millar, Darren Diolch, Llywydd. If you'll indulge me, I'd like to pay tribute on behalf of the Welsh Conservatives to Bonnie Tyler. Tributes have poured in, of course, across Wales about the loss of this Welsh icon, a singer with global fame and impact, a unique artist with a unique voice, and we want to pay tribute to her and send our best wishes to her family and her loved ones. Of course, we're also in shock at the loss of Anne Widdecombe, a colourful political character, a precious character to people across the whole of the United Kingdom, but especially here in Wales for those who met her. First Minister, thanks to the members of the public right across Wales, our country now recycles more household waste than anywhere else in the United Kingdom, and our glass recycling rate is amongst the highest in Europe. Yet in spite of this, your Plaid Cymru Government wants to follow the previous Labour Government's plans to diverge from the rest of the United Kingdom and insist on including glass in its deposit return scheme from October. We know it's going to push costs on to businesses, manufacturers and consumers. What assessment has your government made of the additional costs of this scheme,  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767468 46 En 2026-07-14T13:55:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1500&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1500&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 171 171 Darren Millar AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=171 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=171 Millar, Darren of this scheme, and what are you going to do to mitigate them? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767484 47 En 2026-07-14T13:55:04 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1504&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1504&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun I will, of course, firstly also send my condolences to the loved ones of Bonnie Tyler, a national treasure who was a part of my life as long as I care to remember. She will be fondly, fondly remembered by all of us here in Wales and far, far beyond. And yes, Ann Widdecombe: we share in the grief of her loved ones, but also in the fear around the safety of politicians and public figures, and these are negotiations and discussions that we should all across this Chamber be eager to engage with in a non-party political way. On the deposit return scheme, I note that the Conservatives supported the DRS with glass. This is the starting point, and always at a time of difficulty in the implementation of a policy, it's important to remember where we came from. Why is it that the Conservatives said they supported including glass? Why is it that the last Senedd voted for the inclusion of glass, which is something that this Government is respecting in taking this matter forward? It is because it does go further than recycling. It is the reuse. It is about that environmental responsibility. It is about also being a trailblazer, because there's an agreement in principle in other parts of the UK to progressing with glass. We can be the ones showing the way. Are there challenges? Yes, which is why exemptions have been made clear for small retailers, for small producers, for example. But given that it's the right thing to do, you don't always allow the fact that there are challenges—very real ones, absolutely—to stop you in your tracks when there's a prize worth aiming for. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767527 48 En 2026-07-14T13:56:56 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1616&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1616&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 171 171 Darren Millar AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=171 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=171 Millar, Darren Look, First Minister, we all agree that we need to get to grips with litter and improve even further our recycling rates, but we've already got a by-election this summer with a man dressed up as a bin; the last thing we need is another row about rubbish receptacles, if I can put it that way, here in Wales. Now, councils are actually cutting litter bins across the country because they can’t afford to provide them and can't afford to empty them. Fly-tipping is on the up. Ninety per cent of glass is already recycled in Wales because of the kerbside recycling system and the engagement of the public with it. Why does your Government think it's acceptable to impose extra costs on small shopkeepers, and force householders to face the inconvenience of having to drive with their cars full of bottles back to the shops, rather than simply leaving those glass bottles at the kerbside for collection and recycling? Why don't you make it simple for manufacturers, simple for retailers and simple for the public and bin this unnecessary policy?  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767529 49 En 2026-07-14T13:58:05 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1685&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1685&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Bins being a theme here, I like the rubbish receptacle trashing, of course, the reputation of the leader of Reform currently. Again, when you're talking about people driving places to get rid of bottles, at the core of DRS, as a principle, is people taking things places, so that doesn't make a difference whether it's plastic or glass, and the Member does agree that it's the right thing to ask people to take those plastic bottles somewhere in order to deal with that problem of plastic. I understand that there are challenges, and I know that my Minister is dealing with those challenges now, and putting the practical measures in place in order to deliver this. What we're saying is that we believe that this can be overcome. The Member mentions the additional cost to small retailers. There is an exemption for small retailers who don't have that square footage, that space to put the machines in, and so on. These are things that the Government is taking into consideration, but we believe that this is doable, and we do not believe the threats of the very large manufacturers of extremely large increases in prices. The sums don't add up. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767535 50 Cy 2026-07-14T13:59:15 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1755&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1755&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 5053 5053 Huw Irranca-Davies AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=5053 Llywydd Llywydd Irranca-Davies, Huw Cwestiwn 3, Matthew Jones. Question 3, Matthew Jones. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767540 51 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister O 12151 12151 Matthew Jones AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12151 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12151 Jones, Matthew 3. Pa ddadansoddiad y mae'r Llywodraeth wedi ei wneud o effaith cynllun gwariant ar amddiffyn Llywodraeth y DU ar gyllideb cyfalaf Llywodraeth Cymru? OQ64409 3. What analysis has the Government made of the impact of the UK Government's defence investment plan on the Welsh Government's capital budget? OQ64409 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767542 52 Cy 2026-07-14T13:59:27 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1767&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1767&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Mi ydyn ni'n amcangyfrif y bydd gostyngiad o £25 i £30 miliwn o leiaf yng nghyllideb gyfalaf Llywodraeth Cymru yn y flwyddyn ariannol hon, efo gostyngiadau pellach yn y blynyddoedd i ddod. Mae Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Gyfunol hefyd wedi nodi y bydd angen dod o hyd i £4.7 biliwn ychwanegol yng nghyllideb yr hydref. Felly, dyma'r gostyngiad lleiaf y gallwn ni ei ddisgwyl; mi allai fod yn fwy, a bydd yn cael effaith uniongyrchol ar ein hysgolion, ein hysbytai a'n cysylltiadau trafnidiaeth. We estimate that there will be a reduction of £25 million to £30 million at least in the Welsh Government's capital budget in the current financial year, with further reductions in future years. The UK Government has also indicated that there will be a need to find a further £4.7 billion in the autumn budget, so this is the minimum cut that we could expect, and it could be larger. This will have a direct impact on our schools, our hospitals, and our transport connectivity. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767554 53 En 2026-07-14T13:59:55 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1795&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1795&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12151 12151 Matthew Jones AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12151 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12151 Jones, Matthew Brif Weinidog,  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767485 54 En 2026-07-14T14:00:00 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1800&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1800&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12151 12151 Matthew Jones AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12151 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12151 Jones, Matthew Brif Weinidog, we can all see that the threats to national security are numerous, but it can't be right that Wales will be denied years of capital funding to cover the failure of consecutive UK Governments to give us an armed forces fit for the future. Once again, the needs of Wales have been, at best, an afterthought. Thirty one of 32 schools in Torfaen require urgent maintenance, and there's a £5 million backlog for repairs in Monmouthshire schools. The money we will lose will directly affect areas like mine, and this means that issues that need to be addressed urgently will have to be pushed back. So, bearing this in mind, how will the First Minister keep making the case to the UK Government to redress this? Diolch. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767495 55 En 2026-07-14T14:00:43 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1843&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1843&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun It is a very important point. We absolutely recognise the changing face of the threats that we face currently and the arguments in favour of strengthening defence spending, including in the cyber sector, in which we have real expertise here in Wales, but Wales should not be peculiarly disadvantaged by the way the UK Government has gone about with its decisions on defence spending. Departments in the UK Government in Whitehall would have been able to make the case for protecting budgets. The handing down in this way without negotiation with Wales of ongoing cuts to capital, which were under severe strain anyway, will inevitably mean needing to cut back on spending on health and education. The first supplementary budget allocates £40 million of additional capital funding this year to support the urgent maintenance and repair works across schools—the kind of which the Members mentions. That is put under threat, but, of course, we need to get the supplementary budget through first in order to make that spending. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767503 56 En 2026-07-14T14:01:54 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1914&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1914&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12180 12180 Paul Marr AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12180 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12180 Marr, Paul First Minister, Reform UK makes no apology for supporting increased investment in Britain's armed forces at a time of growing global instability. National defence is the first duty of any Government, so rather than blaming Westminster for difficult spending decisions, will you explain what efficiencies the Welsh Government is prepared to make within its own capital programme before claiming Wales cannot cope? How much money could be redirected by cancelling lower priority projects and reducing waste, so that essential infrastructure such as roads, hospitals and schools is protected while the UK strengthens our national security? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767508 57 En 2026-07-14T14:02:28 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=1948&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=1948&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun I would hope that all of us want to see capital spend on schools and hospitals. These are really, really important elements for the future of our nation. As I said, the point here is that we haven't been engaged in any of this discussion that ends up in cuts being made that will inevitably lead to cuts in public service capital spend. I have written to the Secretary of State for Wales, and the Cabinet Minister for Finance has written to the Chief Secretary of the Treasury, to raise those concerns and to seek clarity of the impacts for our funding. As I say, it's completely unacceptable that Welsh capital budgets are impacted in this way. That does not take away from recognising the changing face of the threats that exist in the world around us, which are undeniable. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767512 58 En 2026-07-14T14:03:20 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2000&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2000&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 4787 4787 Peter Fox AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=4787 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=4787 Fox, Peter First Minister, rather than solely focusing on the impact of the Welsh Government's budget, what is the Government actually doing to maximise the opportunities of the defence investment plan that it can present to employers such as BAE Systems in Glascoed in my constituency and the wider defence sector? There are over 285 defence companies in Wales contributing a £1 billion to our economy. Surely we should be focusing on what we can make out of this instead of just bemoaning the situation.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767514 59 En 2026-07-14T14:03:54 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2034&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2034&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun It's a separate question, but it's a very, very valid question: when defence spending is made or when defence investment is made, there is at least equity in the way that that spend is made. If you look at the way UK Government distributes that investment, Wales has not been getting its share. If you look at the proportion of defence spend going to the south west of England, for example, compared with Wales, there is no comparison. So, the Member is right that there is an economic element to this and that is something that we would look at in economic terms, and, of course, seeking opportunities for businesses involved in the ethical defence sector in Wales. But that does not mean that we should withdraw our concerns around how decisions are made that affect all of our constituencies, be it schools or hospitals and so on. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767510 60 Cy 2026-07-14T14:10:00 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2400&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2400&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun i'r Llywodraeth hon. Mae hyn yn hollbwysig er mwyn codi safonau a sicrhau bod y dysgwyr yma'n cael y cymorth maen nhw ei angen i ffynnu. Mi rydyn ni wedi ymrwymo i weithio efo'n partneriaid i ddatblygu atebion cynaliadwy fydd yn para yn y tymor hir. for this Government. This is critical to raising standards and ensuring that these learners are supported to thrive. We are committed to working with our partners to develop sustainable solutions over the long term. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767513 61 Cy 2026-07-14T14:10:15 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2415&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2415&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12172 12172 Rebeca Phillips AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12172 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12172 Phillips, Rebaca Diolch, Brif Weinidog. Mae'r cyllid atodol yn gyfle mawr i wneud gwahaniaethau a dechrau gweithredu ar flaenoriaethau pobl Cymru. Mae'r cyllid yn ffocysu ar weithgareddau sy'n medru cael eu gweithredu yn y flwyddyn gyllidol hon, gan gynnwys cyllid uniongyrchol i ysgolion i sefydlogi a chefnogi'r ddarpariaeth bresennol ac sy'n galluogi dull cynaliadwy tymor hir i ddod i'r amlwg. Rwy'n ofni y bydd atal y cyllid atodol hwn yn peryglu hynny, yn cadw'r sectorau mewn sefyllfa hynod o anodd ac yn mynd yn erbyn y blaenoriaethau fe bleidleisiodd pobl Cymru drostyn nhw eleni. Er hyn, mae'n amlwg fod angen cymorth ADY arnom yma yng Nghymru. Felly, sut fydd y Llywodraeth hon yn mynd ati mewn ffordd ystyrlon ac effeithiol i gefnogi'r sector? Thank you, First Minister. The additional funding is a great opportunity to make a difference and to start to implement the priorities of the people of Wales. The funding is focused on activities that can be implemented in this financial year, including direct funding for schools to stabilise and support the current provision, and to enable a sustainable long-term approach. I fear that stopping this additional funding will put that at risk, will keep the sectors in a very difficult position and will go against the priorities that the people of Wales voted for this year. Despite this, it's clear that ALN support is needed in Wales. So, how will this Government work in a meaningful and effective way to support the sector? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767521 62 Cy 2026-07-14T14:11:07 http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2467&l=cy http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2467&l=en 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Cynaliadwyedd ydy'r peth pwysig yn fan hyn, onid yw e? Dros yr wythnosau diwethaf, mae yna lot o gyfeirio wedi bod at sut dŷn ni'n cyrraedd at bwynt lle mae yna gynaliadwyedd. Nid ateb tymor byr ydy hwn, mae angen dull partneriaeth go iawn, onid oes, i geisio cryfhau'r ddarpariaeth gynhwysol sydd gennym ni dros amser, a meithrin system fwy gwydn a chynaliadwy i Gymru er mwyn mynd i'r afael â'r pwysau a chwrdd â'r angen cynyddol ymysg dysgwyr. Sustainability is the important thing here, isn't it? Over recent weeks, there have been many references to how we reach a point where there is sustainability. This is not a short-term solution, we need a partnership approach, don't we, to try to strengthen provision that is inclusive, across time, and to develop a robust and sustainable system for Wales in order to tackle the pressure and to meet increasing needs among learners. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767524 63 En 2026-07-14T14:11:38 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2498&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2498&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun Because we know that the pressure is great. And it's in the spirit of understanding that pressure that engagement has happened in recent weeks. And, as I laid out in a letter to the leader of the Labour group yesterday, I appreciated the determination shown by him to make sure that this was an issue on which there was focus, and it enabled us to pursue our determination to build a sustainable future for ALN provision in Wales. That is why we were able to move at pace, working with the education and Welsh language Minister in particular, to not only identify the funding against an extremely difficult funding background, but crucially, to find a way that we can start spending this money immediately. Now, that has come about as the product of positive negotiation. What we want to do, and I think what the majority of people will sense is the right thing to do now, is to get that across the line in that spirit, which allows us, at the same time, to press ahead with spending on the NHS, on childcare and on free school meals as well, which, of course, the Labour Party agree with and I'm thankful to them for expressing that they do agree with it.  16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767525 64 En 2026-07-14T14:12:55 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2575&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2575&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 12183 12183 Tom Montgomery AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12183 Montomery, Tom I'd like to start by declaring an interest. My wife and my mother both work in an education setting, which includes supporting children with ALN. As I'm sure the First Minister is aware, conditions like autism exist on a spectrum. Different children require different levels of support and intervention. Some with the right support can continue in mainstream education, some can't. And then there are the countless individuals who fall somewhere in between. However, those who work within the system, those who I speak to, often tell me of a system that fails to reflect the reality, with many children in need of placement at specialist schools, but stuck in a system that is often too slow to respond or sat on waiting lists for months or even years, whilst others are placed in mainstream education without the correct support packages in place, failing both the students and the schools. First Minister, we need wholesale change and better co-ordination between health boards, mental health services and education authorities to speed up intervention. How are you going to get on and do that? 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767534 65 En 2026-07-14T14:14:04 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2644&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2644&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun The Member is quite right to point out those challenging areas. It's not just a matter of thinking of them in isolation, it's the way that they touch on each other. It is about taking that cross-Government approach. It is the way that my Ministers are approaching it. It touches on the ALN issue, again, and the need to get going on how to impact in the most positive way, on the way policies are delivered within schools. The manifesto on which I stood made this one of the areas that we were absolutely clear we needed to gain ground on. We are confident that, in working in that cross-Government way, we can do that. 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767537 66 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister B Gofal Lliniarol Palliative Care 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767538 67 Cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister O 12159 12159 David Hughes AS https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12159 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=12159 Hughes, David 6. Pa gamau mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i gefnogi'r sector gofal lliniarol yn well? OQ64427 6. What action is the Welsh Government taking to better support the palliative care sector? OQ64427 16085 7 2026-07-14T13:30:00 767539 68 En 2026-07-14T14:14:59 http://www.senedd.tv/en/16085?startPos=2699&l=en http://www.senedd.tv/cy/16085?startPos=2699&l=cy 260714-2 1. Cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog 1. Questions to the First Minister C 2717 2717 Rhun ap Iorwerth AC https://business.senedd.wales/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 https://busnes.senedd.cymru/mgUserInfo.aspx?UID=2717 First Minister of Wales Prif Weinidog Cymru ap Iorwerth, Rhun We are committed to strengthening